Craft Conversations - Women in Leadership

The Craft Conversations are a series of live discussions aimed at highlighting emerging contemporary practices, discussing up to date and emerging issues and challenges, and providing a platform to promote real world successes from across the APS.



Portrait of Celia Perkins

Celia Perkins, Deputy Secretary, Security and Estate, Department of Defence

Celia Perkins became Deputy Secretary Security and Estate in December 2021 after being appointed as Deputy Secretary Estate and Infrastructure in August 2021. Celia joined the Department of Defence through the Graduate Development Program in 1994, and served in a wide range of roles in international and strategic policy and intelligence.

Throughout her career, Celia has contributed to major defence initiatives including the Defence Reform program, the 2000 Defence White Paper, the establishment of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, resolving long-standing security vetting backlogs, implementation of the 2020 Defence Strategic Update and Defence Planning Guidance. In 2021 Celia was appointed as a Defence Indigenous Champion.

Celia has a Bachelor of Arts (Communication) (University of Canberra, 1993), a Master of Public Policy (Australian National University, 2000). She has completed senior leadership programs including the Oxford Advanced Management and Leadership program (OAMLP) (2017) and the Harvard Kennedy School Senior Leaders in National Security program (2009).



Portrait of Kate Harris

 Kate Harris - Leadership Development Lead, APS Academy

Kate is passionate and committed to fulfilling our human potential to enable a positive future. With almost 20 years of leadership roles in facilitating, coaching and in leading organizations through executive roles, Kate is proud to be the Leadership Development Lead currently supporting the development and delivery of Leadership programs for the Senior Executive Leaders at the APS Academy.

Her education includes a Masters of Social Ecology/ Education that specialised in transformational leadership.

Kate’s background is wide and varied including, nursing and the performing arts, which eventually led her to the not for profit sector where she held CEO /Director roles for over 10 years.

Participant benefits

  • Hear how a female leader in the APS has been changing the leadership model that that enables more women to be 'seen' across the leadership and management spectrum.
  • Gain insights into what key skills as an APS leader are identified as transferable, regardless of whether you are military, civilian, APS or private sector.

Suitable for

APS 1 - SES 3

Craft and User Level

This program aligns with the Leadership and Management at the Foundation level.


Free of charge.

One 1-hour session. 12:00pm - 1:00pm (AEDT)
Event type
Australia wide
$0 per attendee
500 seats